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The Remington Rider Pistol

Remington Rider

This is not really an airgun, but rather a percussion cap powered parlor pistol. Still, it is low powered, fairly quiet, and .177 caliber, so I’m including it. It’s a Pedersoli-made replica of a very rare piece that Remington made only 200 of in the 19th Century. Using a standard percussion cap it propels a 4.3mm lead ball at enough velocity to bury it into a phone book. I thought of chronographing a few shots but setting up the Chrony seemed a waste of time given that you don’t expect either accuracy or energy from this little gem.

What you do expect from Pedersoli is good workmanship, and this gun has it in abundance. It’s a close enough replica of the original that if it didn’t have the engraving under the barrel and on the side people would be passing them off as originals. It’s solid, too, and the heft reminds you that this is a real firearm I have a thing for parlor pistols, and for miniatures of all sorts, so buying this was a no-brainer. I bought mine from Dixie Gun Works, though Cabelas sells them as well (when they have them) . I think I paid around $135; prices have gone up since then.

In my testing I used both round balls and heavy .177 cal pellets, which were easier to load. I used mainly Beeman Crow Magnums and some H&N Barakudas I had lying around. Neither are as good as Crosman Premiers when fired in an airgun, but they were just fine in this toy. Shooting is easy . You remove the cap holder, insert a round ball or pellet, and press in the cap holder, which seats the ball into the rifling. Place a standard #11 percussion cap on the nipple and you’re ready to fire. You’ll want to wear a glove on your firing hand, as the gun does have the disconcerting tendency to spit bits of some caps off to the side. Take careful aim- there’s a sight notch and a tiny blade in front- and fire.

I fired mine quite a lot when new, but it’s mostly been sitting in a drawer for the last year. I suppose I’ll end up selling it, and buying another airgun or old Flobert rifle. After all, if I didn’t keep trading I wouldn’t have as much to write about, would I?

16 Comments

  1. William Mitch wrote:

    I have a pair of these pistols in a wood case. They are fun. One is plain metal and the other is case hardened.
    I think I paid $250.00 for the pair in the box.

    Bill

    Sunday, February 10, 2008 at 2:30 pm | Permalink
  2. Kamil Wiśniewski wrote:

    Sorry for some mistakes – my english isn’t perfect, but I have one question: How looks the case of muzzle velocities and strenght of impact measured in Joules? Can this “parlour” pistol be thread as a quick-draw defensive weapon or is to weak? I’d rather think about Cawboy Action Shooting categories than a street fighting but question i serious;)

    Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 2:07 pm | Permalink
  3. mje wrote:

    I have not cronographed this pistol, but I can tell you the energies are very low indeed- far less than a .22 short, and less than a .22 CB Cap or BB Cap. There is no way it would make a good defensive weapon.

    Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 5:11 pm | Permalink
  4. Kamil Wiśniewski wrote:

    Thank You very much – I’d expected answer like this, despite of it price (about 200usd brand new, and 120usd used one – in Poland) that it’s very nice pistol. Some kind of XIX century airgun. I’ll buy one;)

    Monday, May 18, 2009 at 1:56 pm | Permalink
  5. zmh wrote:

    Is anyone selling one of these guns.

    Sunday, June 21, 2009 at 10:51 am | Permalink
  6. Dusty wrote:

    I found them fos sale at Cabelas for about $100.00 US

    Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 11:53 pm | Permalink
  7. Kamil Wiśniewski wrote:

    Hello again – a have question about Zimmer and Saloon parlor pistol’s from pedersoli’s – here is link http://www.davide-pedersoli.com/?item=ArmiCategoriaDettaglio&CategoriaId=127&lang=en

    Maybe someone will describe experiences from shooting this gun. Producent didn’t wrote anything about using some black powder charges – additional question – is there avaible to load powder? The barrel will not explode? Pozdrawiam

    Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 10:40 am | Permalink
  8. mje wrote:

    Adding additional powder to the Remington Rider replica would risk serious injury. I suspect the breech block could fracture and strike the shooter in the head. As for the Pedersoli parlor pistol, it may or may not damage the pistol, but apart from that, what would be the point? This is supposed to be an indoor pistol. If you want something more powerful, there are plenty of other muzzle loaders designed to take a powder charge.

    Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 10:58 am | Permalink
  9. Kamil Wiśniewski wrote:

    Thanks a lot MJE. My question about expieriences is still up-to-date.

    Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 11:06 am | Permalink
  10. Kamil Wiśniewski wrote:

    I know, but i was thinking about small charges, for longer distance – about 25 meters/82 feets. I’m curious about accuracy this sort of gun. Furthemore I like it’s design. Thats all.

    Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 11:11 am | Permalink
  11. mje wrote:

    Adding powder would also increase barrel erosion over time and hurt accuracy.

    Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 11:19 am | Permalink
  12. SSW wrote:

    Help! Where can I buy the loading lever for a remington rider parlor pistol case hardened?

    Monday, December 3, 2012 at 8:58 pm | Permalink
  13. mje wrote:

    I’d try Dixie Gun Works first, since they sell the modern Rider replica.

    Monday, December 3, 2012 at 9:00 pm | Permalink
  14. willem potgieter wrote:

    I live in South africa and would love to have such a little pistol. If anyone can sell me one please let me know..thx

    Monday, April 22, 2013 at 4:37 am | Permalink
  15. Brian V. wrote:

    Can anyone tell me the approximate resale value for one of these guns plz because I have two of them n am willing to part with one if anyone also may be interested let me know email me at lostsolechild2377@ gmail .com I would greatly appreciate it thank you

    Wednesday, March 12, 2014 at 1:55 am | Permalink
  16. Jim McNamra wrote:

    It is often stated that this gun is .177 caliber. Whereas a .177 caliber pellet skirt can be rolled to make it smaller in diameter and useable in this gun, it is specifically designed to fire a 4.3 mm ball/bb which is 0.16929133858286 caliber to be exact … NOT .177!!!

    Wednesday, August 6, 2014 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

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